On the one hand, what can you say about "Illmatic" that hasn't already been said? A lot of albums are unheralded classics, but "Illmatic" was never one of them. From the day it was released in April 19, 1994 up until now each every rap critic worth his salt has praised this album. While it may have been the later works of Nas that made him a household name, it's on the strength of this debut alone that he became an icon to the hip-hop community. Whether you rate it with 5 out of 5 mics or 10 on a one-to-ten scale, the conclusion is exactly the same. Praises were showered on the head of Nas, such as "the second coming of Rakim" and "hip-hop's lyrical saviour," and it's next to impossible to argue he didn't earn each and every accolade. "Illmatic" took the mold for New York rap, broke it, and recast it in Nas' own image. The raw authenticity of Nas' rhymes, informed by both street smarts and a verbal intellect second to none, blended with the best beats New York's production kingpins like DJ Premier, Large Professor and Pete Rock had to offer. While it clocked in at just under 40 minutes and 10 tracks (including the intro) this short album casts a long shadow over everything that's come out since.

Coming on the heels of this album's 10th anniversay, it's only right to pay tribute to such an landmark album by putting out a "platinum" edition with the tracks digitally remastered to perfection. For those who never copped the original when it was first dropped, this new version gives hip-hop heads no more reason or excuse to snooze any longer. To this reviewer though, it seems as though it's pretty hard to improve upon perfection. When the original edition was reviewed on RapReviews.com, it received the highest marks possible across the board for both beats and rhymes. Therefore it should be mathematically impossible to make perfection MORE perfect. It's no different from a silly concept like "infinity plus one" that's still infinite no matter what you add to it. An audiophile could argue the point until I'd be reluctantly forced to agree they improved the quality, but my own listen confirms what I already knew in the first place. "Illmatic" is perfection, whether you own the original or this new edition paying tribute to the 10th anniversary of it's release.

Case closed? Not quite. Perhaps recognizing that indeed it's futile to the lay listener to improve upon perfection with subtle differences only an audio engineer could hear, Columbia Records wisely chose to include a bonus disc of extra material. Comprising six tracks and just over twenty-three minutes, this supplement to the original does indeed present a new view of some old tracks through the lens of remixes and new production. Rockwilder's "Life's a Bitch" remix is bouncy and fresh, but can't be said to top the subtle smoothness of the L.E.S. original. The Vibesmen fare a little better with their remix of "The World is Yours" using excerpts of the Kenny Rankin song "I Love You" in their mix. Keeping the melody piano-oriented was smart, since it provides contrast to Pete Rock's brooding original by using the same instrument with a lighter touch, while Nas flips up the verbals on this one just a little bit. While it too can't surpass the original, it does have a flavor you can savor.

The effect on the "One Love" remix is much more dramatic. Nick Fury's take on the track draws from the Deneice Williams song "Waiting by the Hotline." The original was perhaps Q-Tip's finest work of production ever behind the boards, a simple but harrowing construction of plucked bass and xylphonic notes that made up a spartan and ominous melody. Nick Fury's revisitation of it though is not in any way dark - it's quintessentially the opposite. As if to drive the point home, the album's producers decided to censor the lyrics on this track, even though the album has a parental advisory sticker. It may not be fair to Nick Fury to shit on this remix, since his work is otherwise exemplary and his beat here would suit any other rap song fine, but it mangles "One Love" terribly and the edited out words are the nail in this track's coffin. To his credit, he does a much better job on the remix of "It Ain't Hard to Tell," which uses an electronic re-interpretation of "Nobody Beats the Biz" with some seriously HEAVY bass, which works well with the new lyrics Nas recorded.

The last two tracks on the bonus disc are new material never before released anywhere else. Marley Marl fires up some Isaac Hayes for the track "On the Real" and Nas claims to be rapping lines he wrote way back when "Illmatic" first dropped. Why not? With Marl on the beats, it has the old-time nostalgic feel of a song that COULD have been cut from the original Nas debut. That can't be said for "Star Wars" though, which despite being produced by Large Professor sounds nothing like any of his work with Nas back in the day. It's a great track regardless, singularly worth owning the bonus disc for due to the layered complexity of the track and the rhymes Nas spits:

"Jungle of concrete killers and snakes, I was amongst that
Bundles of crack, through this funnel that's black
I want you to vision, through my telescope, see the hell I wrote
It's Reynolds when I (wrap) rap it, like an envelope package
And they was into dope back then, numbers, pimping and robbing
Well they still robbing and pimpin, but its small change compared to hip-hopping
Or did I mention millions because of limp hopping
Trips, expensive gift shoppin, whip driving
Benzes, Jeeps see, them and they bitch got one, its shockin
You thinking, naw it's just rhyming
But all this time it's like organized crime and
For instance, there was a time when there was a line between streets and business
But now peep how it's mixed in, the beef is now sickening
Everybody got paper, words are power, because of it the cops hate ya
The government watching all of those who thuggin it
They wanna lock us up because they kids are lovin it
Not knowing that most rappers is straight ass
Then shots rang out whenever we clash - it's Star Wars"

Ultimately, "Illmatic" is still as great as it ever was, hands down. The only thing that's really different here is the bonus disc, so whatever you read into the score at the end of this review read it as a reflection of the new material - a largely mixed bag that does show some promise with the new songs included for the next Nas album "Street's Disciple" due out this year. You can't really fuck with a classic and the remixes prove that, but hopefully with his next release Nas will aim to create a NEW classic that celebrates not only his 10 years in rap but the power of his prose.

and yeah!
10. Firm Freestyle aka Firm Members - Nas, Foxy Brown

dopest freestyle, even Foxy is hot, but Nas rips her into pieces...

OK, i'm back! and that was a temporary fukk-up, now i CAN read page 26, so yeah, kormega, i got your request list.
burn me whatever i chose AND that Firm B-Side, too. do you have any movies in digital format?

demise: sh!t, trshady is a bunch of whimpering senile women (for the most part).

word, moz

buncha pussiz

kormega, d'ya want only the albums on those CDs, or can i add some "bonus tracks"? ;)

Of course I don't mind any bonus tracks, BUT ONLY ON SEPARATE CD.
please burn original albums as they are, and all the bonuses r higly appreciated.
man, aren't u make ur own editions, if u can't purchase it? If u don't against I'll make pretty The Firm cd with high quality poligraphy, so u can put it on yo shelf and look with pleasance any time u wanna listen...

Please tell me when u'll send the shit, I'll be countin days:)

Spring's represent

Thank God, finally it's spring
bringing all the happiness that it could bring
and I'm like a tree after winter dream
puttin my face under bright sun beams
real New Year starts those days
just wanna love, I'm tired of hate
tired of frost, all in all I'm a south head
and my mood heavily depends from the weather I have
light leather jacket, golden rings and chains
dope drugs still stimulatin my brains...
ya was hopin Mega's lost - dead mistake
I was sleepin - that's doesn't mean I'm fake -
doubtin? I'll smash u harder than an earthquake
and I'm still in the deal, boundary's breaker
still earnin money as quick as Bill Gates did...
it's the return, it's not the beginning
Fuck, all I needed is this fuckin spring...

Mega, Mega, 4eva!

c'mon men, drop some fire!
I'm in a aight mood now...

My respectability risin from day to day
enemies realize - any schemin will fail
pity 4 them but I stand on my two
when I'm on, betta run away, dude
even don't brag with ya fake-thugs crew
coz when it's time to ride, all is clear to me
who seemed to be tight start mumblin "Man, please"
late to regret, bitch u blind, winter is over
it doesn't matter in which place I may caught you
street, net forum, club or your crib
no chances - I promise any way u'll be ripped
last time with my man on a BM 7-50
we r 2 put 20 herbs on they knees, please believe it
mad men from Caucases fuck u up with no purposes
makin u feel like a silly clown from a circus, yes
they'll do it, paint yo face red, make u blind
I prove my words with the deals, so betta hide
till another winter comes, ha-ha, it's damn right

word

Moz, man r u here?

kormega, i appreciate the "polygraphy" offer, but - truth be told - i don't really care for a nice-looking CD on my shelf. I've got about 150 of them (some are original) and they just collect dust. so when you send the cds to me it's just alright if they are regular MP3 albums :)

Will drop a verse later, have to go soon.

Mozzy, man, how r u?

D'ya have that The Vitruvian Man by 'Bis?

Yestarday I checked 'Bis reviews...
and saw that on the The Vitruvian Man there r tracks:
"It's No Other Than"
"Back With Heat"

and on HipHop For $ale, I have, there r:
"No Other Than"
"Back Wit' Heat"...

wtf? R they different? Don't u know?

howdy :) "Vitruvian Man" is a bootleg/mixtape that is like 2-3 years old, so no wonder some of the tracks resurfaced on "HH4Sale". and no, i don't have the "Vitruvian Man" but I want it badly ;)

fuck, on RapReviews they sayin it was an official one...

How about my package?
I'll send yours in a couple of days, just have no time to burn ur shit on cds (I have no PC at home)...

uhmm... sorry, too many birthdays and holidays in February :D i guess i can understand your hunger to hear those albums, tho... will send them this Friday-Saturday, fa'sho :blackust:

was readin yo Common's review...
Is he really cool? Anotha pale spot 4 me.

the texts are very good. street-level without gangsta, clever without preaching. the flow is not exactly incredible (imagine a cross between Method Man and Mase) but the delivery is palatable. i guess anything except Electric Circus is worth listening to, if not buying...

thx
Fuck, man, what I've found!
The Four Horsemen Project!!! Canibus, Killah Priest, Ras Kass, Kurupt... Neva heard of this, shit seems 2 b recent.
Know anything??????????????

hehehe... i'm about to get this album... it's been rumored they'd release an album in uhmm... 2002-3. then something went wrong and it was never officially released (did you notice that something always goes wrong if Canibus is involved? :rolleyes:) i'm not really thrilled about Kurupt's participation - he's whack as fukk, no wonder he was dating Foxy. The other three are a :bomba:, especially the 'Bis-Kass connection.

kormega, i've got good and bad news for you
good news - i've burnt all the cds 4 ya
bad news - several Mobb Deep tracks are missing :rolleyes:
which brings about another good news - it left some space for "bonus tracks" ;)
unless something outstanding happens, i'll send the cds on Friday

Hi, man!
I got links for The 4 Horsemen album!!! (it's small, only 9 tracks, maybe u can d/l it?)... Critics say it's wack, but I trust mo to my own opinion (and yours:)), so if u can I'll send the link...
and...! I have also got the link for The 4 Horsemen mixtape - various tracks and freestyles includin this crew members. Nevermind music quality - anyway it's fuckin interesting (most of all coz of Bis)...

Man, how 'bout HH4Sale review?
U know, it's often that 1st time listening doesn't give ya the right opinion of the entire album... I think I have some interestin thoughts 'bout it.
Bis is fuckin hot MC, lyrically top 10 by all means, even higher, and Nottz one of the few, who can offer right beats 4 him. Why didn't he work w/ Stoupe anymo? Rip The Jacker was brilliant...(lol but I have the same edition w/ MicClub cover... fuckin native recordlabels, sometimes I wanna tear 'em, ha)

What Mobb tracks r missin? pleas note
Maybe I'll find 'em one by one later... It's dissapointin, but I appreciate ANYTHING from ya.

Fuck, I began seriously thinkin 'bout buyin PC w/ high speed connectin. Tired of askin "that's the link - pls d/l it, then burn it, then give it to me..." Hate of askin anybody anyway, if u haven't an opportunity to give sumthin' back. Ppl start thinkin that u r usin 'em for free, and they r fuckin right!
Mo I'm gettin - mo I'm wantin...

Man, last thing...
Please tell the truth - is The Realness review will see the light:)
u sayin it's alright, but I' m feelin it's not.
U know "Street's Disciple" shit was a long-time effort. I made at least three raw versions b4 sendin u the final one ,and all my friends (tho few of 'em feel rap) told they won't be surprisin to see such an article in a serious music magazine. I feel when people told truth and when they r just tryna encourage.
"The Realness" one I've made in a an hour or so, words were just pourin out from mind to paper... But after repetitive readin I see it's kinda harsh to deal with it.
I didn't change my thoughts 'bout it - 4 me it's REAL NYC HIPHOP, but I think I gotta find other words to make people feel it like I do...

Waitin 4 reply
see ya

OK, multi-question answer :D
- D/L'ing anything bigger than 10 Mb will take me ages, and that if the connection is not interrupted. so I'd rather you burnt me this album & sent it to me (and the mixtape, too) :rolleyes:
- will give you the list of missing MD tracks on Friday
- last but not least: JESUS FUKKING CHRIST!
"The Realness" review is GOOD (i told you that a couple of times already :)) I'll apply a few finishing touches here and there, and it will hit the screens when i'm ready with two more reviwes (i normally send them to my editor in batches of three). Relax and have patience :cool:

ok, man, thanx 4 encouragin...
I catch a thought that I know almost nothin 'bout 'Bis...
Not common things, releases, produces, tracks, it ain't hard 2 find - but some really interestin shit that u can't find in reviews...

I'd be glad to d/l The 4 Horsemen 4 ya, but not immediately. See I have
Ironman
Tical
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Doe Or Die
all on my jobmate's PC and I haven't time to take flash-card to pull 'em out, so it's not easy as it was to get cds...

Maybe boss'll finally buy me new one with recordin cd-rom, so it'll be easy as hell.

lol, but I even come to office an hour earlier than others to lsten to my shit...:)

damn, you keep your colleague busy! :D
:D hahahaha, that's what i call dedication :D
i gotta confess - i know very little about 'Bis, too. i remember his name is Jermaine, i know he volunteered for a Ranger (or some other special force) training course and did his stint in the army.

check out this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canibus

aight
What I know from my memory - He's Jermaine Williams, 1974, born in Jamaica...
But what coast does he rep? He's often on NY rappers joints, but I can't call his style East... Other level, not similar to othas....

I remember, near a year ago, when I just logged in Nas forum and had an opportunity only 2 read 'bout, not listen to, I have a conquest w/ one nigga 'bout Bis... I told 'im that I can point plenty of cats betta than Bis and name CNN, Mega, Jeru, Tragedy... We chatted near an hour, and I PROVED him that Mega and Jeru is betta, though I HADN'T HEARD ANY MEGA'S ALBUM AND LAST TIME I HEARD JERU WAS 5-6 YEARS AGO!!!:)
Can't remember this without a smile now.

Nevrtheless I would place 'em both higher, but what a funny thing Net is:):)

hey, man, r u ok?
haven't seen u 4 ages...

howdy! i'm OK, was slightly busy these two days - a side-job. now i'm back in full effect AND i just sent you the disks. It's the final countdown! ;)

i-i-iha-a-a-aaaaaaaaaa!
thank ya, man

but what tracks r missin?

I have an idea...
What d'ya think 'bout makin a serie like "History of a legend"?
I think Nas will be the first to enter...
I can make reviews on every official Nas album, I want young hip-hop heads to get what he REALLY is and was to hip-hop and why...

any ideas???

uhm... i thought of making a series of "The Best Debuts", but hell i have no time for this!!! Would be great if you could do something like that! as i said, any reviews are welcome.

i will give you the names of the missing tracks before the disks arrive ;)

ok, man, I'll do it
not in a day or two - but it will be great, I promise


Wait 4 Illmatic one near a week...

yo ,folks where u at?

This weekend i got myself a new album - "Hood Prophet", various Nas tracks remixed by somebody called Chemical Drums. With the name like that i thought it's going to be some freaky fukked-up drum-n-bass sh!t... well, it's not! a few tracks are worthless pieces of crap alright, but the others are remixed "good ol' style", reminded me of NY in '93-'95 :bomba: only listened to a half of the album, will give you more info tomorrow :blackust:

neva heard of this...
though I don't highly appreciate all these "blended versions", "remixes" and so on... but I also trust yo opinion, too.
What Nas tracks r there?
and who da fuck this Chemical Drum?



got Only Built 4 Cuban Linx and Tical couple of days ago. Oh, these early 90s, that was era...
Last 2 cuts on Rae's just put me in nirvana... like a warm blanket on a cold winter evening... smooth but not pop...

this shit will never be the same. U can play rock, but u'll never reach Beatles bar...U can rap, but there will be no anotha Illmatic EVER. Sad and cool in the same time.

How is the holiday? Ain't sleepin over last 27 hours... fuckin E's, but that was cool!

howdy! i'm glad you've finally got those good ol' albums!
check this out:
Hood Prophet: http://mixunit.com/2for10/theprophet.html
and the DJ's name is Chemical Kickdrums, he seems to be specializing in remixes together with another dude, Joey Fingerz or smth like that

ha
I've seen this cover on a "The Lost Tapes 2" bootleg, released in Japan. Remember I've thought that Nas is lookin like japanese on a Japan release...

How d'ya think, is Nas takin any part in all those "blended" type of shit? I found one day mixtape called "Hova's Son" - Nas lyrics ova Gay-Z beats. Can't imagine he could appeciate this in 02-03...

see ya

i'm pretty sure he endorses those remixes... for the simple fact that he gets paid off them. yeah, i have that Hova's Son, just never had the time to listen 2 it. Jigga went this "download-my-acapellas-and-remix'em" route, so i guess Nas felt he should at least try the same.
btw, have you heard of the "Grey Album"? It's Jigga's "Black Album" over... Beatles' "White Album"! entertaining, if nothing else.

Yeah, heard of it...Critics screamin it's classic - is it really so? And who is that Danger Mouse? Whom he worked with else?

well, i wouldn't say classic (i'm not THAT much a fan of The Beatles AND i think two thirds of the Black Album is crap)... just that the concept is daring and fresh. The guy is a good underground DJ, check out his site and the productions list:
http://www.dangermousesite.com/discography.html

May i take place here? thx
Rody again and again breaks necks to death
pumped up to max from dusk till dawn wearing black mask
unknown task - ur computer got bugged out
gotta bucks for a tax? some just really dunno that we
are rude as a soljaz, playin jazz for a drunk mass
real mastaz, when we come no chances for bustards


hope it is not that bad:confused:

гангстеры, бля
аффтор - дебил имхо.

all newcomers are highly appreciated...

one law for the rookies on this fuckin page
be raw but intelligent without stupid rage
lay back, kick a rhyme or discuss or just watch
try your best to make your posts cool and top-notch
only don't pose as a dude who is not you
after couple of days it will be clear as morning dew
many were tryin, but - we are so few, u see
it means that it's not as easy as it seems to be

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