Esli chestno, to ya luchshe Detsla budu slushat' chem Pavlov'a... s Detslom hot' mozhno otklyuchitsya ot slov i prosto slushat' muzon i chitku, a Pavlov vo mne vyzyvaet kakoeto neudobnoe chustvo tem kak on chitaet, hochetsya slomat' kassetu.